Koji televizor kupiti - vodič za odabir

Trebali su stavit 50 godina, pa da se vidi tko je gazda .

Doduše za postići burn-in na LCD televizoru treba ti dosta znanja iz napredne fizike.

 https://www.sancta-domenica.hr/led-tv-sony-bravia-kd-55xe8577-4k.aspx

Mislim da je cijena već jako pala. Sjećam se da je xe80 prije 2-3 mjeseca bio 8500 kn, evo sad u elipsu 5700 kn s 5 god garancije. Ja kupujem ovaj tjedan TV jer mislim da cijene nebudu niže nego što jesu.

 BIPS, oba tv-a su odlična, ali B7 ti je najbolji tv na tržištu i tuče Philipsa bez problema, pogledaj si usporednu recenziju na hdtelevizija.com najlakše češ shvatiti, ne znam zašto ti garfield nije dao link od tamo (u biti znam, jer je seronja), a dobro zna za tu usporedbu, jer je i tamo pokušao kontaminirati chat i komentare o tome kako je Philips bolji nekim linkom s AVS foruma. Od 7 kategorija u 5 je Lg bolji, a u 2 izjednačeni. Nadam se da ti je bitnija kvaliteta slike, operativni sustav, Dolby podrška, niži input lag, bolji hdr izvođač, najbolji daljinac na tržištu, itd...a ne ambilight, jer ima i jeftinijih noćnih svjetiljki. 

Što se tiče HDTV recenzije, si  dobro pročitaj pa češ vidjet ko je je u večini segmenata bolji:)) Lg je bolji samo, jer ima Dolby Vision i sa tim dinamične metapodatke..Ali šta znači Dolby Vision, kad možeš pogledat par filmova..Ja uzimam televizor, za sadržaje koje ču moči uglavnom gledat danas, a ne skroz 2 ili 3 godine..A što se tiče svih sadržaja, ako oduzmemo Dolby Vision je Philips svakako bolji:)) A ionako , če moči i taj Philips prikazat HDR10+. Tako, da ništa ne gubiš ako uzmeš taj Philips OLED:) A i stavio sam jučer ili prekjučer linka, gdje se vidi, da je Philips u večini recenzija bolji napram tom Lg-ju:) Lg je jedino nešto bolji kod HDR sadržaja , dok uglavnom kod gledanja drugih sadržaja nije konkurtentan drugim OLEDIMA.. Jer televizor sa osjetno slabijim procesorom, u tom primeru LG OLED, ne može biti nikako bolji napram drugim televizorima koji imaju več osjetno bolje procesore:))  Pored toga ima Lg najviše problema sa Burn-Inom. A što se tiče ovogodišnjih Lg oled modela, je druga priča jer su več svakako bolji zbog novog procesora:)  Evo i šta je napisano.

Based on the scores both TVs collected in the series of different tests, LG OLED55B7 won the picture quality section but not by a lot. Both TVs perform really well in both SDR and HDR content as well as standard, high- and ultra-high definition. I saw an improvement compared to 2016 HDR TVs in terms of factory color accuracy that is important for a vast majority of users that will not – from this or that reason – professionally calibrate their TV. Still, both TVs need to be switched to picture modes other than those activated by default as factory picture quality is really poor.

Backed by the same WRGB OLED panel as well as UHD Premium certificate, it was very interesting to compare picture processing between these two TVs. One of the benefits of Philips’s new P5 picture processing is improved upscaling sharpness which cannot be fully matched by LG even with increased Sharpness and Super Resolution controls. P5 handles upscaling very nicely and even though I prefer as neutral picture as possible, I really liked how processing was done. I suggest you play around with Sharpness control till you find the optimal value – for me, it was between 1/10 and 2/10 (this also depends on how far away you sit from the screen).

On the other hand, noise reduction yielded surprising results. When all Noise reduction controls were turned off, LG had cleaner noise in the image. Philips’s noise was more coarse and distracting. But once Noise reduction was activated, Philips had a cleaner picture with nice amount of details in it. As I do not mind noise in the picture, especially if we talk about film grain, I liked LG’s picture more.

Both TVs handle standard definition interlaced content well, with sometimes visible aliasing on the edges even though HQV Benchmark 2.0 Blu-ray disc revealed correct cadence detection on every test sample. Again, Philips has an upper hand here as its Sharpness control works better and can help improve the perception of details with low-resolution content.

MPEG noise reduction is of limited success on both TVs and I was a bit surprised that P5 performs exactly the same as LG’s processing. Though both TVs can make compression artifacts a bit blurry so that they do not stand out too much, they cannot make highly compressed content to appear amazing. No TV on the market can do that, so for the best result you should turn towards quality content providers or Blu-ray/UHD Blu-ray.

PC users will like the fact that on LG OLED TV after certain luminance level the screen will not vary in brightness depending on the content. I discovered that around OLED Light value of 25/100, the luminance is the same regardless of how many pixels are active. Philips 55POS9002 does not have such function implemented.

SDR-to-HDR conversion was better on Philips as it was more subtle and did not deteriorate picture accuracy as much as the one on LG. LG’s HDR Effect option as low as “Light” was changing gamma too much so the picture would appear artificial.

Both TVs still exhibit vertical stripes when displaying uniform near-black content, which is something that is plaguing current OLED technology. Even much more expensive OLED TVs such as Panasonic TX-65EZ1002 suffer from this issue. In reality, I was not bothered with it during this test and I do not see it on my 55EA980V OLED TV that I have for over 2 years now. I am sure most of you will say the same.

For some reason, I write about UHD HDR at the very end of this summary despite this type of content being the star of the show. UHD HDR content looks amazing on both sets – picture dynamics were excellent and a real joy to watch every content I could get my hands on. Using Samsung UBD-K8500 and OPPO UDP-205 Ultra HD Blu-ray players, I watched many scenes from The Revenant, Despicable Me 2, Planet Earth II and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice in HDR10 format.  Backed up by measurements as well, both TVs show improvement over 2016 UHD HDR TVs in terms of color accuracy and great tone mapping with many details in highlights. Philips even has a particular control for adjustment of tone mapping, HDR Perfect, that at the end I left at Maximum for the best result.

There is no winner in the HDR section as both TVs perform equally great, but this goes for HDR10 format only. The advantage LG’s B7 has is the addition of Dolby Vision support that I verified to work on Despicable Me 2 UHD BD disc. Dolby Vision uses dynamic metadata that applies different brightness parameters for each frame as opposed to HDR10 which uses static metadata for the whole content. Rtings website has a wonderful guide comparing HDR10 and Dolby Vision, check it out for more details.

Despite the technical aspects that should lead to better picture quality in case of Dolby Vision content over HDR10, I did not find the former as impressive as expected on LG B7 OLED TV. Both looked great, much better than SDR, but Dolby Vision appeared to be somewhat brighter, like when you play around with gamma control. This was the reason why more details in shadows on Dolby Vision version were visible. The vibrancy of colors and gradations to me looked the same.

Pa još usporedba na testu..A taj Philipsov procesor, je u rangu Sony-a i Panasonica:)

Individual Category Scores

Contrast Performance: Panasonic 65EZ1000/EZ1002 OLED first with 4.62 points, Sony 65A1 OLED second with 4.43.

Color Accuracy: Panasonic EZ1002 tops with 4.70; LG B7 second with 4.37

Motion: Sony A1 tops with 4.35; Panasonic EZ1002 with 4.19

Uniformity: Panasonic EZ1002 tops with 4.49; Sony A1 second with 4.10

Video processing: Sony A1 tops with 4.51; Sony ZD9 second with 3.98

Gaming: LG B7 tops with 4.46; Panasonic EZ1002 second with 4.11

Bright Room: Samsung Q9 tops with 4.37; Sony ZD9 second with 3.77

HDR: LG B7 tops with 4.19; Panasonic EZ1002 second with 4.11

Evo još šta kaže jedan naš forumaš.

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Pa što onda radi taj Philipsov über procesor nad procesorima kad ima najlošiju kvalitetu slike. I što se tiče Dolby Visiona nema veze što je to 12-bitni sustav, što je bolji izvor, bolja kvalieta sadržaja će biti prikazana čak i na 10-bitnom panelu, pogotovo što je dynamic metadata, pa će zbog točnijeg i šireg prikaza boja i kontrasta za svaki frame, izgledati uvijek bolje, ljepše i oštrije od hdr10 koji ima jedne te iste postavke od kraja do početka sadržaja, pa su mu mnoge scene off i bez detalja. Znači itekako ima koristi od toga, no ti to ne možeš uočiti bulječi u Philips. Nisam obračao pažnju na Philips do sad ali baš sam si pogledao sve modele u elipsu u Areni prošli vikend, žalosno kako im tech-demo video koji puštaju izgleda jadno i mutno ko da su HD Ready tv-i, a ne UHD, ali oled izgleda dobro.

Garfield1, pošto nemam vremena više raspravljati ( prošlo mojih 15 min dnevno za čitanje foruma i ostalih vijesti - savjetujem i tebi da se okaniš foruma i baviš se malo životom ), daj mi samo reci kojeg Sonyja imaš doma u kući?

tajooooo...lega...zemo 

NathanDrek se razumije u televizore i najstručnije mi je objasnio kad sam došao u veljači na temu kupiti tv.

No, to ne opravdava vulgarizme upućene tebi ili bilo kome drugom s njegove strane.

No, svemu tome je kriv Garfield koji je bacio močne čini u ovu jadnu grupu i svi su ti ovdje ili anksiozno agresivni ili depresivni.. 

btw;

A što se tiče "stručnjaka" iz osječke Emmezete (vjerojatno si tamo bio/razgovarao s prodavačem) za pet dana na ovoj temi i surfajući po Webu sam došao u Emmezetu i sve prodavače sam ubio s mojim "ogromnim znanjem".

Žalosno je, ali od njih 5/6 prodavača i jedne prodavačice sam više znao o televizorima uopće.

Mogao bih im sutra biti šef što je njihova sramota 

 Po meni trebao bi imati 65POS9603, poslan od strane Philipsa, jer tako upornog i vjernog čovjeka bi i ja želio u svojoj firmi. Istina je što je netko gore napisao da nije Philips toliko loš, u nekim slučajevima je bang for buck, ali više si mu naštetio nego koristiš.

 Dodajem i usporedbu ta 4 :)

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/523b57434

Zar je problem pročitati par postova ranije. Ovdje imaš dobro objašnjene razlike između modela i podmodela. Ukoliko imaš problem s njemačkim koristi google translate. Gore lijevo izabereš njemački jezik, gore desno izabereš hrvatski/engleski/štogod. Lijevo upišeš stranicu i lupiš enter. Razlika je u izgledu, boji, tipu panela i 100Hz. Zadnje dvije stavke su veliki razlog zašto bi uzeo KD-55XE8577.

Ili jednostavno klikneš ovdje.

 Hvala, ima neki poseban razlog? Nešto što ga posebno izdvaja od ostalih?

Poštovani,

planiram kupiti OLED telvizor:

Najvjerojatnije ću kupiti:https://www.sancta-domenica.hr/oled-tv-lg-55eg9a7v.aspx 

Zanima me dali ovaj LG koji je 4.000 kn skuplji toliko i bolji od od LG 55EG9A7V?

https://www.sancta-domenica.hr/oled-tv-lg-oled55b7v.aspx?utm_source=jeftinije&utm_medium=products&utm_campaign=jeftinije_products&utm_content=pp_3 

 okreni dvije/tri stranicenazad ako ti nije jako teško.

Tamo imaš preporuke za takav tv.

Ibjegni Emmezetu i gledaj da ima 5 God garanciju.

Ostalo, sve je to tu negdje.

Bogami, ja sam gledao zadnjih par strana, pa samo neka prepucavanja i, iskreno, i ja sam se izgubio u šumi svega toga.

Na stranu to, kakvi su Xiaomi televizori u odnosu na konkurenciju?